The sinful nature deriving from Gnosticism
Sin is what separates us from God and that is because of the choice on our part to break his law. Being conceived or born are certainly not offensive to God so such things could not possibly be a cause for separation from God. Children are not born in sin!
There is no “sinful nature” in sight when reading the Bible. We are “wonderfully made” according to the Bible, and created in God’s image. A sinful nature would provide us with an excellent excuse for our sin (“my sinful nature made me do it ...”) but in reality we have no excuse for breaking the commandment of God since we are made fully capable of being faithful to God.
1 John 3::4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.
Is. 59:2 But YOUR INIQUITIES have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Micah 3:4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that KNOWETH to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Jas. 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of HIS OWN LUST, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
The fall of Adam has certainly affected all of us since we cannot reach the tree of life due to him, but never due to having inherited his or anyone else’s sin. Adam was the first to sin (along with Eve) so it is a good description to say that sin entered into the world through him, but note that it is DEATH (not “sin”) that passed upon all men, and note also the reason for this: “FOR that all have sinned”. Not because Adam sinned and we inherited his transgression through the genes.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned
Again, the Bible never claims that a conception or birth separate us from God. Coming into this world is hardly something we can plan ourselves and it is never considered offensive to God. Augustine made the sinful nature idea popular in church and Luther and Calvin continued to spread this gnostic idea.
Jesus was tempted like all of us but without sin (he successfully stood against sin) and the Bible does not claim that he had an advantage over us in any way. If we were all born with a sinful nature (which makes us sin) and not Jesus, this would be a HUGE advantage.
Who is righteous? Do not let anyone deceive you about this.
1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that DOETH righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
Hello! Idk if my initial comment was posted but I think I’ll repost it here:
I feel homosexual attractions, does that mean it was my choice to feel this way and it was not some “malfunction” in my flesh like my flesh was rlly NATURALLY made to be attracted to the same sex? God bless. I want to become hetero but I still feel homo attractions then thoughts come to my mind saying “is it fair for God to punish me if i have a homo partner since my flesh NATURALLY feels this way?” idk if that made sense but i hope i did…
Just a follow-up on my mssg about homosexuality, I was attracted to men ever since I was a kid. IDK when I was a kid i dont know much abt God and the Bible.. I just got attracted to men and i didnt know it was a sin when I was a kid. Like I felt that I was born to feel those homo attractions if u get what i mean.
No, I don’t believe it’s necessarily a sin to feel such attractions, or to be tempted to have an affair, to drink alcohol, or to hit someone, etc. Temptations are not sins. The key issue is how a person handles his feelings and emotions, which are partly affected by genes, culture, religion, upbringing, etc. A person can have certain feelings against his/her will, but it’s also a risk that certain feelings are even deepened if the person seeks to be tempted. Something isn’t right just because “I feel this way” because with that logic also pedophilia must be deemed right. God knows our battles but he also knows what we do to avoid being tempted or acting out on feelings which are not on par with his creation. It’s of course uphill for a person who feels attraction to his own gender (feelings which a person did not ask to have) , but it’s also uphill for people who are chronically sick/disabled, or very poor, lonely, or constantly bullied, not able to get children, etc. Life isn’t fair, but fortunately life is short and we can look forward to a permanent life ahead of us. I can also tell you that there are homosexuals who have been converted into becoming heterosexuals through an act of God, but being healed in this way is often connected to the person’s own will to even be converted. Some people might not be interested in letting go with their feelings and temptations.
God loves all his people including those who battle with homosexual feelings. He knows that different people have different weak sides to battle. For some people alcohol is a huge problem, and for others not. Temptations are not sins, and even Jesus Christ was tempted (without giving into sin).
“No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.” 1 Cor. 10:13
The question is if we want to be led by the holy Spirit and away from temptations and sins.
I can recommend Torben Sondergaards films about being a Christian in general, because they are very refreshing.
Thanks for your reply. May I know if I you have received my message on Facebook? I want to ask some questions regarding Christianity but I find contacting you through Messenger would be more convenient.
No I haven’t received any FB messages from you as far as I know. My name is also rather common. My contact information (email) can be found under “About me”.
Om vi inte har synden i oss från födslen, hur kan det då komma sig att små barn ex har vredesutbrått, gör saker de vet att de inte får göra, o s v?
Jag tror synden bor i människan och att synden verkar fram synderna vi begår.
Hej Björn! Bebisar är skapta av Gud att kunna kommunicera genom att skrika. Då får föräldrarna signaler om barnets behov. Alla barn har inte vredesutbrott men ibland kan högljudda protester vara motiverade. När barn växer upp lär de sig hur man hanterar önskemål och kommunikation.
Att synda är något man gör. Man utövar alltså en “synd”. Om synd vore något som bodde i oss utan vår medverkan så skulle vi ha en ypperlig ursäkt för vår synd men sanningen är att vi inte har några bra ursäkter. Dessutom skulleJesus ha åkt gräddfil , för han hade förstås ingen sådan inbyggd synd. Men Jesus hade samma sorts kött som oss och genomled samma sorts frestelser.
I’ll also add that being angry isn’t a sin. Maybe the baby has a reason to scream or cry? He\she could be hungry, scared, uncomfortable. Babies are born into a cursed world, and there are needs they have that need to be met for them.
Exactly, Brandon! Being angry isn’t a sin but loads of Christians get the impression that it is and therefore believe that avoiding sin is absolutely impossible. Sinning without a cause is a sin on the other hand.
God created babies with the ability to scream/cry in order to communicate that it has certain needs.